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Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
that-house
vague-humanoid

This film features a new superhero Sabra - an Israeli zionist Captain America type role. Sabra shares a name with a massacre in which thousands of Palestinians died, and they announced the character on the 40th anniversary of the event. BDS are calling for a boycott. Don't watch. https://t.co/tD3oSXX3f7  — nmm (@niamhmarym) July 12, 2024ALT
slyandthefamilybook

Wow, this would be crazy if it were true

Sabra (the superhero) is not named after the Sabra and Shatila Massacre. To say that she "shares a name" with it would be like saying that Barack Obama shares a name with Saddam Hussein. "Sabra" in Hebrew means a prickly pear, and has been used to refer to Jews born in the Levant since at least the 1930s (possibly earlier), far predating both the comic book character and the Massacre. The hummus brand, for example, is named after this usage.

The character Sabra first appeared in August 1980. The Sabra and Shatila Massacre wasn't committed until September 16, 1982. It was announced that Sabra would be appearing in the new Captain America film at D23 2022, which took place between September 9 and September 11. So no, the announcement wasn't made on the 40th anniversary. It was the 40th anniversary year, but there's no evidence that that was anything more than a coincidence. Also, while BDS has derided the character, I can't find anything about them calling for a boycott of the film

All that being said, the Sabra and Shatila Massacre was awful, and fully fuck the IDF for enabling it. I do find it interesting that OOP only mentions the Palestinians who were murdered and not the Lebanese Shias. But look. I'm not going to go to bat for Marvel here. Their ideas about representation have always sucked, and Sabra is no different. I hate that this film is going to feature a superhero who represents patriotic nationalism, who proudly served in their country's military, who comes from a place that's committed numerous crimes against humanity. Fuck Captain America! Oh, wait—

vague-humanoid

it was announced the same week as the anniversary. they talk about her on day 11 and a massacre sharing her name is on day 16. its not a stretch, it the same damn work week. lots of people refer to events within the same general period as an anniversary and remember it as such, don't be obtuse

4 or 5 days difference. and she is literally named to invoke the social meaning, which itself invokes the cactus, but is not about he cactus.

Belinda Glass, a singer and the first wife of Marvel writer Mark Gruenwald, came up with the name and concept of the character.[3] "Sabra" is a slang term for a native-born Israeli Jew. The name refers to the prickly pear cactus: tough on the outside but soft and sweet on the inside.[4]


there is an entire social history of that term, and an honest accounting of why people don't like the Zionist who's children were killed by arab terorists and fights a shirtless arab man with a damned scimitar might think she is mean to represent some fucked up ideas

“From the beginning of Israeli cinema in the 1930s and until the Six Day War, the character of the male Sabra stood out,” notes Dr. Arielle Friedman, head of the communication department at Oranim College of Education. “One example is the character Asi Dayan portrayed in the movie He Walked Through the Fields, based on the book written by Moshe Shamir. In many films the Sabra is portrayed as a heterosexual Ashkenazi man who is usually handsome and extremely manly, and oftentimes is an IDF combat soldier and lives on a kibbutz. The Sabra symbolizes our attempt to create a figure who is the complete opposite of the weak Jew from the Diaspora, and is the story of our people.”

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this isn't some generic "patriotism" her story is explicitly meant to demonize Arabs and justify Zionist violence


while BDS has derided the character, I can't find anything about them calling for a boycott of the film

https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide

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vague-humanoid

@groovybridget this is the actress talking about her upcoming character @2for1-kaczynski-special



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@kimocat-art

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the film was announce din july 2022

her inclusion was revealed later that September.

check the date of this article and the tweet is references

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her inclusion in the films the films was announced September 10th 2022. the massacre was September 16th. how is that not the same month? its the same week


if you wanna argue coincidence, we can have that talk. but claiming her announcement wasn't near the anniversary is a pretty bold lie, and all is does is supply cover for Disney and an active zionsit using this film to recruit

soapywalten

arguing about the name really feels like splitting hairs. An Israeli fed is being portrayed as one of the good guys in Disneys big action blockbuster parallel to the IDF slaughtering Palestinians, there's no excuse for that.

chibi-oneiros
love and satisfaction
trying-to-work
botanyshitposts

tempted to make a lichen growth form tier list but in truth i appreciate all of them in their own ways.... fruiticose is lavish and interesting and genuinely kinda insane to me but only because i come from a place where all the lichens are crustose.... foliose lichens are also kinda wild and in my experience are laden with soridia on the edges and also sometimes can come out branched or tube-shaped or hairy on the edges which is wild, also i think its funny that they end up growing on top of each other on dense logs and stuff....crustose lichens have a special place in my heart because i grew up with them and i love how they cover the bark of trees and some of them are so flat you can barely tell its a lichen (Graphis scripta certified classic lichen moment)...... squamulose is a bit of a deep cut lichen moment but one of my favorite lichen species is squamulose (Psora decipiens ❤️💞🫶 spoiler alert: small and pink no less)......etc. just thinking about them today tbh

trying-to-work

Fruiticose

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Foliose

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Crustose

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Squamulose

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Obviously, more variety within each than these singular photos can show.

Plus a fun video about lichen:

i love lichens so much ima take lichen photos when i go to oregon
bogleech
soul-hammer

I still can't get over this, one of the most important "natural experiments" to come from COVID: https://t.co/Oso2eDVOKH  It's all right there in front of us, a free lunch pathway to reducing some of the most immense cruelty in our society. pic.twitter.com/o54eIHr2AG  — Dustin Palmer (@dustinbpalmer) November 11, 2022ALT
weabooweedwitch

I love that the pandemic actually definitively proved a lot of those "hard" questions for us. Masking up reduced cases of the flu to almost nonexistent numbers and we had zero flu deaths for a time. The welfare and social service and unemployment programs helped keep people living paycheck to paycheck out of poverty, and those stimulus checks some folks keep complaining about actually massively benefitted the common man and the economy. Individual personal travel was so extremely restricted on a global scale that we basically have concrete proof that individual restraint in terms of driving cars or travelling means absolutely nothing by comparison because the mass pollution is coming from the fisheries and the corporations with private jets and container ships. Working from home actually has massive benefits for a company like productivity boosts and better mental health of employees while also saving gas

and we're just. Willingly going back to how everything was before. We were shown how to do things better and the people in charge said "that's nice but we just want to get everything 'back to normal' :)"

roach-works

we’re not willingly going back to how everything was before. we are being forced back into it by members of the ruling class who found out that making things better for almost everyone else made them feel bad.

silly-jellyghoty

Let's not forget about any of these things. Let's reblog and schedule this post to pop in in the future to remind us of what we may have forgotten a little.

cwicseolfor

Do not forget.

deanpinterester
blanketforcas

(only answer if you're 20+!) did one or both of your parents/guardians smoke cigarettes inside the house for at least 1 year or longer while you were/are living at their house?

i'm under 20

yes, even bedrooms

yes, but not bedrooms(*)

yes but only in one designated room (eg laundry room) i didn't often need to be

no, they only smoked outside

no, they didn't smoke (or stopped before i lived there)

no, but *i* did/do

even more nuanced answer that really doesn't fit any of the above

*you can answer "yes, but not bedrooms" if that also includes bathrooms or the whole upstairs if that's where all the bedrooms are

also let me know where you're from if you want!

none of us like the heavy smell but i love the old washed out scent of cigs cig smokes of past times
bittylildragon
asneakyfox

the idea that restrooms, locker rooms, etc need to be single-sex spaces in order for women to be safe is patriarchy's way of signalling to men & boys that society doesn't expect them to behave themselves around women. it is directly antifeminist. it would be antifeminist even if trans people did not exist. a feminist society would demand that women should be safe in all spaces even when there are men there.

asneakyfox

btw this is maybe the single most key distinguishing feature of the terfy strains of radical feminism, the seed all the rest of it springs out of: they have absolutely no faith in the ability of feminism to actually destroy patriarchy. they do not think feminism can truly build a better world. they cannot really even imagine that possibility. they think patriarchy is an inevitable natural consequence of unchangeable biological facts, and therefore the goal of feminism can only be to mitigate the worst effects of patriarchy, not to get rid of it.

they can imagine a society where women get some designated safe spaces without men around. they cannot imagine a society where the presence of men is not inherently a danger to women.

bumblebeebats

“Frances and I were considering attending a Lesbian/Feminist conference this summer, when we were notified that no boys over ten were allowed. This presented logistic as well as philosophical problems for us, and we sent the following letter:

Sisters: Ten years as an interracial lesbian couple has taught us both the dangers of an oversimplified approach to the nature and solutions of any oppression, as well as the danger inherent in an incomplete vision.

Our thirteen-year-old son represents as much hope for our future world as does our fifteen-year-old daughter, and we are not willing to abandon him to the killing streets of New York City while we journey west to help form a Lesbian-Feminist vision of the future world in which we can all survive and flourish.”

— Audre Lorde, Sister Outsider: “Man Child: A Black Lesbian Feminist’s Response." (This essay in particular was apparently first published in 19-fucking-79, which is how long this conversation's been going on.)

batmanisagatewaydrug
batmanisagatewaydrug

can I be so real with you. can I be honest. totally aside from the moral panic about women on booktok being """porn addicts""" because they're reading erotica, I think it's so fucking goofy when people act as if there needs to be some kind of societal reckoning with how tiktok books "aren't very good." like, okay? they're commercial products mass produced for entertainment. tiktok didn't invent that; you're going to have to take it up with pulp magazines and dime novels and comic books. you guys would throw up if you found out about Fanny Hill.

batmanisagatewaydrug

a year or so ago I was lucky enough to attend s talk by Dr. Emily Knox, a brilliant researcher and author with degree in both library science and religious studies, and she had this theory that both leftists and the right in America have this baked in reverence for books that's a holdover of ye olden days when very few Europeans could read and most people primarily interacted with the written word in a religious context, as a means of learning about the Christian God and means of salvation.

the subject of Knox's talk was mainly how, on the right, this deep belief in the innate power of the written word is a large part of what drives efforts to have books removed or banned from public libraries, as if good "normal" white children are going to instantly become polyamorous atheist antifa supersoldiers if they're exposed to degenerate filth like And Tango Makes Three.

meanwhile on the left we're broadly ideologically opposed to book banning but still have this weird reverence for something that is, ultimately, a mass produced consumer good. which is why you get people developing beef with books that don't pass the vibe check re: being intellectually and morally improving literature and acting like it's a societal ill that women on tiktok are ready dorky erotica. sure, you're not saying out loud that these books should be banned, because you know it sounds fashy, but if you're arguing that they'll have a deleterious effect on women too dumb to know better then the subtext is still pretty readily apparent.

batmanisagatewaydrug

I guess my point being if you've allowed yourself to develop a superiority complex because you think you're reading "better" books than Those Other People maybe uuuuh calm the fuck down and kill the book cop in your brain, it literally doesn't matter.

batmanisagatewaydrug

some people in the notes are like halfway getting this by saying something along the lines of "at least they're reading something! all reading is good reading!" and like. sure. but what if I also told you that reading is not an innately virtuous act and that reading for fun is a morally neutral act.

tucsonhorse

If you enjoy reading for entertainment cool, enjoy it and read! If you don't enjoy reading for entertainment, okay 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Learning new information is good for brain health, and reading is one way you can do that, often one of the cheapest ways if you have access to a public library. You can also do that by having new experiences, listening to things (podcasts, audiobooks, random people having conversations etc). Or you can decide you don't want to try and do that. All are equal morally, which is to say entirely neutral.